when i normal world and i ask people what they think the source of american power is, the either side pentagon or the size of the federal debt. if you're the biggest debtor in the world, it gives research and power. are you optimistic that these can be reversed? 30 seconds. >> some very optimistic about america's future. we have to approach that future with confidence. we have to get our house right, but we have to be prepared to engage with confidence abroad. we are still that shine a light on the hill that people look to. they are disappointed when we don't deliver. we're disappointed when we don't deliver. i think we can, both at home and abroad, find a way. it will not be simple. our government takes longer to get things done than a real economy would like. of the end of the day, i am optimistic. >> . q.. -- thank you. they care so much. steve case, michael porter, robert kimmitt, douglas holtz- eakin. host: caller: -- [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2012] price talking about the so- called fiscal cliff and what the